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With the Church of England's first women bishops to be named soon following the final seal of approval for legislation allowing them, that is exactly the case. Supporters of women bishops say St Paul was part of an early Christian world in which some Church leaders were women. Opponents believe he forbade women to exercise power in church. As an bble on life in the earliest Christian communities, Paul is unsurpassed.

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He was a key figure in the first Churches spreading outside the Holy Land. His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry. Jimmy Dunn, former professor of divinity at Durham and author of the Cambridge companion to St Paul, and Dr Lee Gatiss, womem of the evangelical Church Society, and opponent of women bishops, examine some of the texts.

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The clearest passages? They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. Some observers question the validity of both these key "anti-women" texts.

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Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking. Gatiss says the text has circulated with other epistles of Paul "since the very earliest days". He says "there is no external or manuscript evidence whatsoever to indicate that it is not a genuine letter by the mesasge it claims to be from.

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Dunn does not think I Timothy should be disregarded. But he thinks it may date from a second generation when the expected second coming of Jesus had not happened and the Church had to be "organised for an indeterminate future".

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No-one doubts that Paul wrote I Corinthians. But some commentators claim verse must have been added later, because it appears to contradict an earlier verse in the same letter which says women should have their he covered when they prophesy.

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Surely if they prophesy they cannot keep silent - and therefore can be discarded? Dunn mwssage not go so far, but he insists that texts must be seen in their historical context: "I think Paul would have been appalled that so many of his letters set in particular situations… are being generalised 19 centuries later and people say, 'This is the rule for ever and a day'. The I Corinthians passage perhaps concerns "women who are too keen to take part and are asking questions and raising issues and so on, and the worship is being disrupted", Dunn says.

Gatiss agrees that in bibel Bible "we expect to find historical details and cultural peculiarities and even teaching which applies to the immediate hearers but not to others". But, he says, "all our earliest manuscripts of I Corinthians support the versions of the text as they appear in the standard translations", and its message is clear. Why are women in a list of important early Christians? In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women.

Some commentators stress the fact that one, Priscilla Prisca in the original Greekis named before her husband Aquila.

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Another couple, Junia and Andronicus, are said to be "eminent among the apostles". He was a key figure in the first Churches spreading outside the Holy Land. His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry.

Jimmy Dunn, former professor of divinity at Durham and author of the Cambridge companion to St Paul, and Dr Lee Gatiss, director of the evangelical Church Society, and opponent of women bishops, examine some of the texts. The clearest passages?

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They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. Some observers question the validity of both these key "anti-women" texts. Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking. Gatiss says the text has circulated with other epistles of Paul "since the very earliest days". He says "there is no external or manuscript evidence whatsoever to indicate that it is not a genuine letter by the person it claims to be from.

Dunn does not think I Timothy should be disregarded. But he thinks it may date from a second generation when the expected second coming of Jesus had not happened and the Church had to be "organised for an indeterminate future".

Proverbs - MSG - "Many women have done wonderful things, but you

No-one doubts that Paul wrote I Corinthians. But some commentators claim verse must have been added later, because biible appears to contradict an earlier verse in the same letter which says women should have their he covered when they prophesy. Surely if they prophesy they cannot keep silent - and therefore can be discarded?

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Dunn does not go so far, but he insists that texts must be seen in their historical context: "I think Paul msesage have been appalled that so many of his letters set in particular situations… are being generalised 19 centuries later and people say, 'This is the rule for ever and a day'. The I Corinthians passage perhaps concerns "women who are too keen to take part and are asking questions and raising issues and so on, and the worship is being disrupted", Dunn says.

Gatiss agrees that in the Bible fkr expect to find historical details and cultural peculiarities and even teaching which applies to buble immediate hearers but not to others". But, he says, "all our earliest manuscripts of I Corinthians support the versions of the text as they appear in the standard translations", and its message is clear.

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Why are women in a list of important early Christians? In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women. Some commentators stress the fact that one, Priscilla Prisca in the original Greekis named before her husband Aquila.

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Another couple, Junia and Andronicus, are said to be "eminent among the apostles".